CANCON 2024 Sig Sauer Interview – New 3D Printed Technology and Mount Adapters!

Overview:

Rob Interviews Chris Chang of Sig Sauer and gets the scoop on Sig's new 3D printed suppressors along with a cool new mounting solutions. We'll see if Rob changes his mind about proprietary mounting solutions when we get our hands on it in the future!

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00:00 - Intro
00:21 - Sig's History in Suppressors for US Military
02:00 - New 3D Printed Cans
04:22 - New Proprietary Mount

Transcript:

Hey everybody, Rob Orgel, we're at Anton 2024 and we're in the SIG booth. And SIG has a new line of suppressors. Chris knows a little bit about that. Tell me. - Yeah, so we'll kind of go through a little history lesson. So this right here is the suppressed opera receiver group. So this is something that we won an award with so come a couple of years back.

They had a requirement for a low back pressure can, something that their most biggest concern was toxic fume to the operators. They have a super high round count, obviously doing a lot of training, going overseas, using them overseas. So they had a couple of interesting requirements for this one in particular. They wanted a suppressor that had a way that it wouldn't burn, like when they slanted and stuff like that. So we actually have a titanium cage, which is pretty unique for this particular system. But this is the surge, it's kind of like the grandfather of our line of suppressors right now.

We also use that SLX in our NGSW program. So when we submitted the rifle, they wanted a dedicated suppressor that was gonna live on that rifle platform. So that was the SLX. The SLX is kind of derived out of our military contracts and their priorities. So we prioritize flash mitigation and also that toxic fume reduction. So we're advertising about a 70 to 80% reduction over a standard baffle can. - That's a lot. - That is significant.

So that's really those ones. They're using DMLS, which is kind of a 3D printed technology, but we're using these giant industrial machines to make sure that these things are extremely durable. Unlike welded cans, you don't have any weaknesses, even if you're laser welding. This is one solid piece of a single material. So you have a bunch of internal geometries that our engineers are able to do. - It sounds checky. - Yep. So there's a lot of stuff that they're able to do through fluid dynamics and stuff like that in the computer, as well as printing prototypes. So we're able to kind of down select and find an optimized geometry on the inside. - Gotcha. - All of our suppressors also have a integrated flash hider. So this keeps the overall length short, you actually are mitigating a lot of flash at the end cap of this suppressor. - Good. So that brings up a good topic, Chris. When we talk about military contracts, law enforcement contracts, it's the polar to the civilian side. Civilians like make it quiet, make it quiet, right? So all they care about. - I'm glad you mentioned that. So we have the SLX and those are popular for the people that are pursuing those kind of attributes.

We do know that the commercial side has very different priorities. So that's why we created the SLH. The H is kind of like our hybrid. - For the homies. - For the homies. - Okay. - So this, while also being a very high flow can, it's about a 50% reduction in your toxic fume back to the shooter and overall back pressure while retaining really, really good sound characteristics. So that's, we're able to kind of find a compromise in the internal geometry to kind of, be able to please the people that want really, really good sound. Also don't want gas to the face. So we have a couple of different options. - Interesting. That makes good clarity. Cause I know when this release happened, I went online and I didn't find a short answer to anything. I wanted to know which one is the military. Don't affect my gun. Don't increase my back pressure. High schedule of fire. Don't give me cancer in a year. Versus the, this is for all the guys who aren't doing NSR drills time after time and full auto and team movement, squat size maneuver type stuff with a volume of fire substantially higher. And they're asking for maximum reliability. This fills that civilian need of stay reliable, reduce back pressure, but give me much quieter essentially. Perfect. Well that, that answers a ton of questions in my mind. I can also say that I don't like back pressure. I don't care who you are. Well, I want maximum quiet. That back pressure to the face, the gassing to the face, the felt recall, all of that's bad news. Those of you who are already following the channel know that back pressure is my arch rival. And it sounds like Sig has the opportunity to smash that thing. Now you do have a proprietary mount. Tell me about that. - Okay. So we have the ability to, you know, look at all the other competitors. We compete in all these submissions for contracts. So we know what our competition is. We know all the industry. There's no secrets as far as they're, when we tested all those other, we saw a lot of infuse those suppressor mount lines. A lot of times the biggest issue that we see with higher rates of fire is the carbon locking on. So essentially like the can is now stuck on the mount. So what we do is we actually have a taper here that's in front of the locking mechanism. So that taper seals all the gases. It also ensures concentricity, which is an added benefit.

Those, that taper, there's a three cams that will lock on and bite onto this device and ensure that this thing doesn't loosen. It's got a loose, it's got a relatively rough acne thread. So you can tighten on very quickly, but it bites on. You don't get any carbon into the mechanism that kind of gets it stuck.

You mentioned another mounting pattern. The issue with some other mounting patterns is that they have female threads on the wrong side. So as these-- - Our society is confused these days. - Yeah, so as the suppressor heats up, when you have a mount that's on the inside of the can, instead of a mount on the outside, the can will heat up, it'll expand, and that mount will get looser and looser. - That makes sense. - What you want is you want something that's on the exterior of it, so that as this, as the suppressor gets hot, it's expanding, but you've got the mount on the outside of it to make sure that it's not loosened. - That's interesting. And that's one of the topics we're gonna specifically hit soon because everybody's asking, what's Rob's favorite? And I like the silencer called ASO. When I got my most recent MCX LT, it had a proprietary mount and I unscrewed it and threw it in my spare parts drawer because I said, I don't really like proprietary, it sounds like you got some good reason to be proprietary. It sounds like you might be outperforming some of the predecessors. - What I will say is we have the most R&D engineers in the industry by a long shot. And all the contracts that we win, all of our commercial success, we reinvest into engineering to ensure that we have the most feature-rich and best engineered products possible. - I love it. And I'm gonna get your email, I'll reach out to you, you're gonna talk to your boss, we'll see if we can get some R&D time on our viewers. With any luck, we'll have the new six hour reduced pack pressure because you know I love that. Five, five, six, the presser. And we'll put it head to head with the other stuff as well as the mounting system. Because you know Rob doesn't like proprietary, unless there's a good awful reason this might be one. All right, like, comment, subscribe, it doesn't cause anything. We'll see you in the comment section and be safe.