SIG DMR 6.5 Creedmoor Suppressor Head-To-Head Testing – SilencerCo, B&T, Huxwrx, YHM, Anechoic
Video Overview
We've received a lot of requests to move into larger calibers and while we're not going to stop 5.56 suppressor videos, we are going to incorporate more large calibers such as 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 and others. In this video Rob pulls out his Sig Sauer DMR G2 6.5 creedmoor rifle that in an attempt to find a good suppressor for this piston driven rifle with minimal gas adjustment options. We test suppressors from SilencerCo, B&T, Huxwrx, YHM, and Anechoic all head-to-head to determine a final winner.
Video Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:37 - Host Rifle: SIG DMR
03:46 - Baselines
04:03 - SilencerCo Omega 300
05:43 - SilencerCo Scythe-Ti
07:39 - YHM Resonator R2
09:00 - SilencerCo Velos LBP 762
09:59 - Huxwrx Ventum 762
11:04 - B&T SRBS 762 Ti
12:06 - Back Pressure Testing Data
12:36 - Dead Air Nomad L
14:01 - Anechoic AnechoX 35L
15:12 - Anechoic AnechoX 30L
17:11 - Final 3 Showdown
20:00 - Winner B&T SRBS 762 Ti
Video Transcript
Hey everybody, Rob Orgel. Now I know you've been asking for it for some time and we're beginning. That is the 6.5 Creedmoor and the .308 content. Now earlier we did a deep dive into 5.56, we finished the K-Can video and we even did the belt fed video, which I know might not be out yet, but I want to let you know there was a lot of good lessons learned from the belt fed video and my opinion about titanium suppressors has since changed. So I'm going to go a little bit deeper in a different video about titanium versus Inconel when it comes to suppressors and heavy use. In this video we're going to begin our dive into, in this case, 6.5 Creedmoor. Now what you see to my left is a six hour DMR rifle. They don't make these anymore. This is actually the Gen 2. I have both the Gen 1 and the Gen 2 of this rifle because I think they're phenomenal rifles. The Gen 1 I actually took to Sniperfest and it really did well at Sniperfest. Having a gas gun was a super big advantage as compared to the majority of guys who had bolt action rifles at that. It was an education as well as a competition and it was an absolute blast to participate in that. If you're not familiar with what Sniperfest is, you should check that out. It's run by TacFlow and they're just a great group of guys and they put on good instruction as well. Having said that, a piston and suppress gun is usually a bad combination when you're looking for precision. However, I have found this to work pretty darn well. Now the Omega 300 is what we're going to start with and you're going to see the back pressure in the form of ejection path. Even though it's a piston gun, you're going to see violent ejection. As the recipient, I can tell you I'm going to feel a lot more recoil. Then moving into some of the reduced back pressure suppressors, we're going to see a big difference. Now, we have an actual platform for testing. It's out again and it's because Sig Sauer sent us one of their 7.16 rifles and we sent it to Kyle over at Rifle Speed. He's going to install a gas block for us so we can make those adjustments like we did on our 5.56 rifles. That's a 308 platform and that's the platform we're going to use to measure how much back pressure each suppressor gives us to include the alleged low back pressure suppressors. We're finding a lot of companies are saying low back pressure and the cans are not actually low back pressure. Through that test, we'll have a lot more information. Until that time, we're going to begin with our 6.5 Creedmoor and just see the performance behavior out of the suppressors you see to my side. Now there are many more silencers we have that we intend to use on these tests. This is just the first phase of our test. As always, like, comment, subscribe. We really appreciate your comments. Reading the K comments this morning, how overwhelmingly positive they all were. We really appreciate that feedback and it super helps the algorithm. You know they're getting real strict on guys like us and reducing what we're allowed to talk about and so on. Us defeating that algorithm from your comments really is like a damn the man thing and it's super anti-2-way and we're winning the fight anyways because of your comments. Especially when you share the video, every time you copy the link and throw it in a text message to your buddy, YouTube knows that you did that. So please continue liking, commenting, and sharing. That really goes a long way. If you really want to support us, this 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, it's my ammo, my rifle, my optics. Some of the suppressors are trickling in but we're still paying tax stamps on that stuff. So the coffee mugs and glasses that you're buying from our website, that's really helping us afford to continue doing this testing without getting in trouble with my wife. Alright, without any more delay, let's get to testing.
Alrighty, here we go. We've got the Hornady ELDX ammunition, 143 grain on a 6.5 Creedmoor. And going forward, this is the control with no suppressor. Alrighty, so I'm about two tenths of a mil high and I'm going to leave it there so that when I add the suppressor, it's probably going to bring me back into alignment with what should be zeroed. Alright, let's run the first silencer. As always, my baseline of course is unsuppressed but then my baseline for suppressors is the Omega 300. So I've got the Omega 300 attached, I don't have the anchor brake on. What's interesting, the other day I was reading the sound summit from Thunderbeast and they had the Omega 300 flat cap and the Omega 300 with anchor brake. And you could see that the anchor brake did decibel louder. And early on when I got into the Omega 300s, I was pulling all those things off and putting flat caps on all of them because I felt like it was quieter. It's cool to see that there's decibel readings that support that. I think to the ear, there's some that's similar information and some that's very different information when you compare it to what it sounds like versus what a decibel reader would say. Alright, this is going to be a high back pressure suppressor. It's going to kick forward and it's going to have a lot of recoil. Probably a lot like the Nomad ELD just had. Oh yeah. Plenty of recoil on that for a 6.5 Creedmoor. Ejecting forward and a lot of push. You can see the gun moving. It's substantially more recoil. It's amazing that when you put it on a bipod on the table or on a tripod, how much less recoil you're going to feel. Whereas when you're standing unsupported, how much more recoil you're going to feel. So whatever deviations we're finding here will be amplified when you're in an unsupported position. So again, it's the baseline. It's not, it's a bit dated technology, but it's still a great suppressor. It definitely belongs a little bit more on a bolt action rifle than a gas gun because of how much back pressure it gives us. Alright, so we pulled off the silencer coat Omega 300. What was interesting in the process of unscrewing that suppressor is I realized that that's the suppressor I took to sniper fest many years ago. And now I look back on that chapter like, man, what a bad pairing. It worked. It did fine, but the increased recoil and overgassing I was dealing with at that competition that I just didn't even realize at that time. It's fun to see what I knew then versus what I know now. It's humbling. Alright, so this is one of my favorite suppressors because it's so lightweight. This is the silencer coat, what do they call it? The S S I Sink, something like that. I like this suppressor a lot because it's stupid, lightweight, and it's very quiet, but it's going to have a lot of back pressure. We should see the effects. Alright, so having tested the silencer coat, I think it's called the sink, the scythe, whatever it is, it's super lightweight. I love it on bolt action guns, but on gas guns, it gives me so much back pressure that you can see we're ejecting forward. Now, because it's a piston, I'm not getting a ton of gas to the face, but it is ejecting forward. And that's, that's a pretty negative thing. In addition to, I feel a substantial amount more recoil than initially when we were unsuppressed and we were ejecting to that like ideal four o'clock, four 30 position. So I'm going to go ahead and remove this can and quarantine it in my mind to that belongs on a bolt action weapon or something that you can tune the gas on. And you can call that a drawback to this host. It really only has two gas settings and that's standard and adverse. So there is no suppressor setting on this gun. If you want to hear more about hosts, we would really love to dive into what is and is not good suppressor hosts and what requires a low back pressure suppressor and what can take any suppressor. If you're interested in host videos, let us know in the comments section. Let's swap cans. Okay. Now we've got the YHM resonator. Now in the five, five, six rifles we test with the adjustable gas block, we found this to be a relatively high back pressure suppressor. Even though it's supposed to be a low back pressure, we have not tested on three or eight or six, five. So this will be its first test in something larger than five, five, six. Let's see how she performs. Interesting results on the YHM resonator. It looks like it patterned much like the silencer co suppressor did just a moment ago and it did have the increased back pressure. But what I found interesting is from my periphery, I could see shot one, the brass ejected forward like a standard high back pressure suppressor. And then on shot two, it ejected closer to what looked like a three o'clock position. We'll review the footage and see what it captured, but it looked like shot two was much closer to low back pressure. It still felt like a lot of recoil. It still felt like a suppressed full back pressure set up and not quite the low back pressure thing. I look forward to getting into the low back pressure suppressors so that we can really see the difference and how it performs on this gun because it's feeling very high back pressure so far. Let's move to the next camp.
All right. So now I've got what I call the rock star. This thing has done so well on every platform we put it on. This is the Velos 7 6 2 suppressor. I like it for a ton of reasons. And I think this being the first of the low back pressures we're testing, I think it's going to be a pleasant journey. Let's give it a try.
Well, I guess correctly that was very smooth shooting. It ejected in the same place it did when it was unsuppressed. I mean, I know I'm wearing hearing protection, but to me it sounded good. It sounded deep. And I mean, I'm really liking the Velos line of suppressors. Let's move over to the next low back pressure suppressor and see how it performs. Alrighty. So now that we finished the Velos, we're going to put it next to the Ventum. So the Ventum is quickly becoming about the only Huxwrx suppressor I like these days. Let's find out how it performs, particularly in comparison to the Velos, because I don't think I've shot the Velos since or close to a head to head, especially on a 7.62 suppressor head to head on a six five Creed bar. So let's see how it performs.
You know, that was actually, that was good. It ejected just like the Velos did. It had a different sound to it, a little bit more of like a pop, but it was still deep. So I think between those two, we're going to have a real hard comparison on which one's better. Both of these suppressors are very solid on the six five Creed more so far, and they're not affecting our gas settings. All right, let's hop over to the next low back pressure. One of my favorites, the B and T. All right. So we've got the SRBS suppressor on now, and it is contacting the ASR in a weird way. So we couldn't screw it on as, as far as I'd like to, but I think we'll be okay. If not, we'll capture some cool content of destroying another silencer. All right. This is our third low back pressure suppressor we're testing today. That's actually low back pressure.
I'll tell you, that was extremely rewarding. It ejected exactly right. It felt really good. Maybe the lowest back pressure feeling, which is interesting because when we did back pressure testing on 5.56, we found this to be a position five position six ish, depending on the platform. Whereas the Velos, we found it to be, I don't remember, like position nine or something really, really high. So it was low back pressure, like lower on the Velos than on the SRBS. But that SRBS is probably the best feeling suppressor so far today. And hidden little detail. One of my favorite things about it is that darn thing weighs seven ounces. It weighs like nothing and it has low back pressure. I might be going back to the SRBS being my favorite silencer again. We'll continue testing, but man, I, B and T is doing some cool stuff. All right. On to the next can. As it pertains to sound suppression, the Nomad L's is absolutely my favorite suppressors. Now I know there's some DB readings you can play with and, you know, argue over one being quieter than the other.
Tone, pitch. So many things play a role in sound suppression. And man, I, everybody around me is, is blown away by these L's. I am blown away by the L's. Behind the gun, I don't know how quiet is because I'm hearing the action of the weapon, but next to the gun or running shooters, because I'm an instructor and I do that a lot of the time. Hearing an L to me doesn't even sound like a gunshot. Doesn't even sound like a suppressed gunshot. So the L's really are amazing regardless of what people say as far as decibels go. These L's are the cat's meow when it comes to sound suppression. Back pressure, they're not great. So I imagine this is going to eject forward and be a little bit unpleasant, but it's going to be very quiet. Yep. As I suspected, definitely sharp on the recoil, ejecting forward, just like the worst of them. Sound wise, I mean, I'm hearing the spring going back and forth inside the weapon more than I'm hearing the gunshot. It's impressively quiet, but it's still full back pressure. All right. Next presser. All right. So now we're on to the Anechoic. Now the Anechoics, I brought a 30 cal and I brought a 35 caliber. I'm really impressed by the 35 caliber. So I want to start with it first because of how low back pressure it is. And then we'll move into the 30. Here we go.
That ejected the correct way. It felt very soft. I think it was a bit snappy for sound though. It was a little bit on the louder side than the other suppressors. You know, when I talked to the Anechoic guys at CanCon, one of the guys said, we're not going to be the quietest silencer. We're not chasing that, but we are looking for low back pressure and versatility as well as lightweight. And for what they're targeting, they're succeeding. It's not as quiet as some of the other guys, but it's, it is very low back pressure. It's gas and eject in the correct way. And it felt very smooth to shoot. Do I pick it over a Velos or the B and T or the Ventum? I don't think so, but it is a 35 caliber. So it offers a lot more versatility. All right, let's move to the 30 cal. All right. Something I should mention about Anechoic as I was switching suppressors. I forgot to say earlier is this is their flow through cap. So if you change to their sealed cap, it will increase the sound reduction, but it will also increase back pressure. Having said that you get to choose whether you want a flow through or less flow through based on your mission, which is their design is nifty. I'll have to do a workbench video where I specifically dive into the Anechoic suppressors because their, their concept, their design, it's nifty. It's very serviceable. It's very user friendly. It's just, as I mentioned, it's not the quietest one. We're going to have to put those non flow through suppressor caps on there just to see if we can hear the difference right now. My target, as you know, is low back pressure because that's a thing for me. All right. So let's go. This is the Anechoic 30 cal L just like the 35 L the 5.56. I have the standard. The rest I have our L's. Let's see how she performs on six five Creedmoor. All right. So I felt a little bit more recoil on that. It still wasn't bad. It was nothing like the high recoil, high back pressure of the, you know, fully stacked baffle suppressors that were used to. It was more than the 35. I mean, that makes sense. If you just think board diameter, we're pushing a lot through that board diameter on the 35. I don't think it's my favorite suppressor. I do think it's a great suppressor. I think there's a lot of benefits to this can that when I had it on a five, five, six, it didn't really shine very well. Now that I've got it on that six, I mean, it's a good suppressor for weight service ability and that you can choose out your end caps to have more or less flow through. I think I want to circle back and do a head to head and I want to pick my top three and put the three back on the gun and maybe, maybe we have Damien listen and see if he can hear a difference, see if I can feel a difference with the best three head to head. And that's definitely going to be the Velos, the Ventum and the B and T SRBS. And I got to tell you, I'm excited to do this test, finding these three low back pressure suppressors because this host, it's a good gun, but it just back pressures so much. It recalls more than a six, five should. It kind of became something that I was putting in the back of the gun safe, but pulling it back out and running through these suppressors and finding a good back pressure, low back pressure suppressor is very exciting for me. So we're only going to do this for two rounds each. We took our ears off and we're going to find out which one of our three favorites is truly the best performer, all things considered. Here we go. This is the SRBS from B and T six, five Creedmoor. Suffer for the science. Gosh, those two bullets went inside of each other in the orange. That makes me happy. Uh, sound, it was a bit abrasive. I think, I think I would not do that all day. I think on a hunt, that would be okay. But even the two I'm ringing a little bit extra on my left ear. How about you? Yeah, I was ears are ringing a little bit after the first round pop. The second one wasn't nearly as bad, but yeah, it's ringing. Second round was definitely better than first, but I mean that first one was a bit sharp, but still not bad. I mean, if, if we didn't have a suppressor on this thing, holy gosh, our ears would be ringing. We'd have, we'd have a bad day. So I like this suppressor, but let's see how the other two perform. All right. We've got the Ventum 7.62. This one, uh, gosh, I mean, I know it feels good. I hope it sounds good too.
Ouch. One more.
Yeah, that's a little bit sharp. Yeah, my, my teeth are ringing. Your teeth are ringing. Yeah, that's a bit sharp. I, after the first shot, I kind of said maybe I should do the second one, but oh well, we did it definitely between those two. The BNT is the superior suppressor. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. Back pressure wise, I think that Ventum has a little bit less back pressure than the BNT on the 5.56 that is, but I mean on this gun it's performing the same until we get that three oh eight back. We'll be able to test and find out exactly how much back pressure the difference is, but definitely the BNT takes the cake so far. All right. The Velos 7.62, which I have a feeling this suppressor is going to sound the best. I'm hoping it does because my ears are not happy with me right now. Um, but I mean a part of me is holding my breath for that BNT. It's so light. See what happens.
I give it to the BNT. I think it's, I think it's definitely the BNT. It's definitely the BNT, but for a moment, let's delineate something. This can is louder, but it is deeper. So pitch wise, it's, it hurt my ears. It offended my ears. The BNT one, no question about it. And I'm really excited to be in T one for a handful of reasons. One, this can weigh seven ounces to the back pressure is phenomenal on it. The Hux works and the Velos are a little bit better on back pressure, at least in the 5.56 we test so far. Once we have the three oh eight, we'll know for sure. But I'm, I'm really happy that BNT one I'm on this platform. Disclaimer on this platform, the BNT one for sure. Hands down. Once we get that three oh eight, we'll do some more testing and this is piston. So there's a lot of arguments we had over it being the appropriate host for suppressor testing. What I'm saying is I really like this rifle and I miss being able to play with this rifle. So having a definitive answer that the BNT one, I mean, by how much do you think Damien, I would say a good 20 to 30 percent. Me too. I mean, the volume and the pitch, the first one hurt a little, but the second one really wasn't bad. I say the BNT wins and now let's consider all things, right? So the Velos has the Charlie mount, which a lot of guys don't like. It's not exactly hub friendly. The Huxwrx has the hub mount, which we all love. But I got to say I'm not in love with Hux works sound wise. They're just they're not impressive to me. That BNT, because it's got the hub friendly system, because it's so darn lightweight and it's a flow through. I mean, not just on paper does the BNT win, but to my ears, to Damien's ears, which is five, six feet away, I think hands down the answer is definitive. The BNT 762 takes the cake on the piston six, five Creedmoor. No questions asked. Any comments to add to that? I think you summed it up. Well, that BNT. Yeah, the first round rung me a little bit. But after that, it was it was nice. Well, that's that's another great point is like, remember, we did that low light shoot with the 556, you could see the muzzle flash coming out and it had like a little bit of a muzzle flash on round one. And after that, it just showed that little ring of fire that was like so minute that it was hard to see. And I think that kind of proves the point. Some suppressors are defeating first round pop. That's a thing. Some guys are doing that successfully. This maybe isn't one of them, but it's not hugely different after round one. And it's super pleasant. So I'm super excited to say that this took first place on this again, disclaimer, this six, five Creedmoor piston, sig DMR rifle, this BNT suppressor is hands down the winner. And I'm so happy that it is because it's so light. All right. If you like this video, if you enjoy this content, especially this style, where we're shooting and learning as we go and sharing, I mean, we really enjoy doing this. Your likes, comments, subscribes that you're sharing of these videos are helping us to defeat that to a anti to a algorithm that doesn't like us talking about suppressor, doesn't like us talking gun. YouTube is anti gun. I'm sure you all already know that. So we're really swimming upstream, but you guys are making it possible because of all the work you're doing in the comment section. We super appreciate you all. Please keep it up for us. You're helping the channel grow and we appreciate getting the opportunity to test and share our results. All right. As always like, comment, subscribe and stay safe.